Madfriars covers Padres prospects in great depth throughout the year. Recently they released their list of the top 20 Padres prospects. The list includes an in-depth analysis of each prospect ranked. Mad Friars has been kind enough to answer our questions about their list, the Padre’s system, and prospects in general. This is the final part of our interview…
Last year Denis argued that Matt Antonelli’s future might be in center rather than at second base. Given his regression at the plate in 2008, do you still believe Antonelli could be better suited for centerfield, or will he have to stick at second if he wants to make it in the majors?
John Conniff: I think his future with the Padres is at second not only because that is where he has the most value but arguably the team’s greatest depth is in center with Macias, Hunter and Tekotte. I’ve always liked Antonelli as a player and I think the best thing for him this year is to go to Portland and put together a few good months. Just leave him alone and let him play.
Denis Savage: I think there has to be an asterisk on this one. When I spoke on this, I was looking at the glaring need for a center fielder within the system and at the major league level. There was no Jody Gerut at the time. I love Gerut, by the way. Having seen Antonelli briefly in center, I don’t think he can adjust to it quickly enough. To be blunt, he didn’t look good. At this point, keep him at second base. We have already asked him to make a position change once. There are other options that weren’t here a season ago.
As for the bat, it will come around. Antonelli will be starting for the Padres next year and in subsequent years.
You list Wynn Pelzer significantly higher on your list than most others who follow Padre prospects have him ranked. What do you see in Pelzer that separates him from the other “Non-Latos” pitchers in the Padres’ system?
John Conniff: He keeps the ball down low with a hard two-seamer and he competes. He led the Wizards in ERA last year and his coaches really rave about him, especially his ability to make adjustments.
Denis Savage: I will go out on a limb – one of many I find myself standing alone on - and say that Pelzer will have more success at the major league level than any pitcher – outside of Portillo – in the Padres minors today.
Pelzer is special. He has a terrific two-seamer. His slider is a plus-plus pitch. His changeup has a change to be a plus pitch after making huge strides in his first season throwing it – and he got rid of a split-fingered fastball that was a definite plus pitch that was second only to Latos’ knuckle-split in terms of how good it was.
The important thing is he bought in to what the Padres are trying to accomplish in full. He took instruction and applied it on the field better than any prospect last season. We have just touched the surface of how good he can be.
What puts Cedric Hunter ahead of guys like Kyle Blanks and Kellen Kulbacki, who both appear to be better hitters? How big a factor does speed and defense play in Hunter’s future projection?
John Conniff: I thought you could make a pretty good argument for any one of the first five to be the top prospect. I looked at it this way if Latos was healthy for the full year, then he’s the top guy. I’ll take anyone that is 6’6”, 215 and throws in the mid-90’s with control and the potential to be a number one starter.
Hunter led the minors in hits, showed some gap power and played a very strong centerfield. To me, he seems like the perfect fit for PETCO, a guy that can not only hit the ball into the gaps, but go get it as well. He was the most advanced and still has some potential for power, but more of the gap variety than for home runs.
Decker had an amazing year in the AZL, better than either Blanks or Hunter when they were there. He not only showed great instincts at the plate, but is much better defensively than given credit for. I’m usually not as high on players who do this in the short-season leagues, but right now he seems to do everything at the plate the Padres want. He waits for his pitch and when it is there really does something with it.
The only negative on Kulbacki really is that has performed in spurts, not really over a full season, but what he did over a three month period last year he was the most dominant player in the system. I’ve always liked Blanks, but until recently the Padres really didn’t have much interest in putting him anywhere other than first, and in the long run I like AGon more than Gigantor. Part of it also is that I see his swing as much more of one designed for contact than raw power. Again, he’s very good but there are quite a few mixed opinions on him.
Denis Savage: When we compile our combined rankings, we do so with a lot of debate. John and I have unique perspectives that make it work and balance each other out.
I had Blanks ranked first and believe he is the top prospect. John contends that if he is limited to first base, his value is diminished. He has a point. I say that if we trade Blanks because he is a first baseman and we get a prospect who plays shortstop back – is the player received our top prospect? Probably. And then the debate really starts. We have learned to play much nicer with each other through the years but do get heated looking to champion ‘our’ prospect. To me, what Blanks did at his age was astounding. I am still fighting for him to be the top guy.
On the other hand, Hunter is a terrific pick too. The way we see it, Hunter will always hit. He may not have the homers some would like or the speed others would covet, but Hunter reminds me of a Howie Kendrick. He can hit .330 in the big leagues and do damage. There is no player I would rather have up to bat for the hit-and-run, to move runners over, to drive in runs. He makes people pay by hitting the ball hard. I don’t think people realize how good he is already. His defense is sound. His speed, really his first-step quickness, needs work.
Kulbacki, on the other hand, has a few more questions. There is no denying the monstrous numbers he put up with Lake Elsinore but we also have to look at slow starts in each of the past two seasons. He needs to have a good start to this year to propel him up the list.
Also, what kind of impact does age have on the rankings? How much difference does a year or two make in terms of a player’s prospect status?
John Conniff: Age will always have some affect on a ranking; obviously a 19 year old that is tearing up the MWL is more impressive than someone that is doing it at 23. However, it’s also important to realize why someone is at a certain level. For example the reason David Freese was at Lake Elsinore for the full season in 2007 was that Chase Headley was above him at San Antonio and the Padres weren’t that keen on promoting Chase to a bad Portland team in AAA. Freese could have handled the Texas League by mid-season at the latest, but there was nowhere for him to play. It was not a reflection upon his ability and he proved it by making the jump to AAA last year with the St. Louis system.
Finally, how do you weigh the five tools when evaluating prospects? How important is each tool, relative to each other?
John Conniff: It’s important, especially at the lower levels because it gives you an indication of what someone has the potential to do. Now whether they can do it on a consistent basis is another question. To me the biggest thing to look at is the ability to control the strike zone, which is OBP for hitters and the K/BB ratio for pitchers. If hitter doesn’t know what a strike is or is not at this level, the majors will be very tough. The same goes for pitcher, you have to be able to throw strikes consistently because if you are always pitching in hitters counts you are going to get hit.
Denis Savage: All five tools are taken into consideration. For hitters, power and average are at the forefront. If they have plus speed, however, power is less important. Defensive tools are also important, especially when you consider the defensive expectations at Petco Park.
A hitter with more than one plus tool and the potential for other plus tools is always coveted. When you find several plus tools, it generally shows. Carvajal has the potential to have four plus tools. Jaff Decker might only have three but his three outweigh Carvajal’s because he has proven he can supply production with those tools. Blanks has three tools that are considered plus and his power could be a plus-plus tool – with a potential rating of 80 on the traditional 20-80 scale. That is important to note. It isn’t just the tool but the current level of the tool and projection of the same tool – often two different numbers. Now, can the player meet that projection? This is where the fun really begins.
On the pitching front, the tools we are looking for vary and aren’t simply specific to the effectiveness of their pitches. Velocity, movement, control, location, variance of speed between pitches, holding runners, and the quality of the pitches themselves. You can have the best slider in the world but if you can’t throw it for a strike than it is useless. Jeremy McBryde made a statement last year in closing the gap between the level he was at and his ceiling (or meeting the projection on his tools). He still needs to throw the changeup more but even that pitch was vastly improved. Wade LeBlanc does everything so well and has a changeup that rates as an 80 on the scout scale. A plus-plus pitch is worth a lot of points since a pitcher may only need three pitches to succeed. Ivan Nova has three plus pitches but has further to go with them to reach his top potential. Steve Garrison might not have the true plus pitch but each offering is solid and his location, movement, and speed variance allow for success.