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		<title>By: News &#38; Notes &#171; Sdpads1 Blog</title>
		<link>http://friarforecast.com/?p=260#comment-967</link>
		<dc:creator>News &#38; Notes &#171; Sdpads1 Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 21:51:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Starting Pitchers) and appears to be infatuated with Khalil Greene lately that you can see&#8230;. Here Here Here  And [...]</description>
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		<title>By: MB</title>
		<link>http://friarforecast.com/?p=260#comment-948</link>
		<dc:creator>MB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 18:19:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brian, I've always just wanted to put together Marcels, which is the "basic" system Tango does. Anyway, I don't know how to do much of the coding part, but if you ever need some help or ideas, let me know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brian, I&#8217;ve always just wanted to put together Marcels, which is the &#8220;basic&#8221; system Tango does. Anyway, I don&#8217;t know how to do much of the coding part, but if you ever need some help or ideas, let me know.</p>
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		<title>By: Bryan S</title>
		<link>http://friarforecast.com/?p=260#comment-945</link>
		<dc:creator>Bryan S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 15:26:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: 8, it looks like we'd have to build a formula (or, more likely, formulas) to project Khalil's home performance and then check it against that.  This is actually something I've been wanting to work on for a while (i.e. building my own projection system).  My school provides me with some software that makes this a lot easier to work on.  I have some ideas on how to make this work, so you'll definitely see me work on this in the near future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: 8, it looks like we&#8217;d have to build a formula (or, more likely, formulas) to project Khalil&#8217;s home performance and then check it against that.  This is actually something I&#8217;ve been wanting to work on for a while (i.e. building my own projection system).  My school provides me with some software that makes this a lot easier to work on.  I have some ideas on how to make this work, so you&#8217;ll definitely see me work on this in the near future.</p>
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		<title>By: MB</title>
		<link>http://friarforecast.com/?p=260#comment-944</link>
		<dc:creator>MB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 01:05:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brian, believe it or not, I took a intro stats class last year. I did pretty decent, but for some reason, a good portion of the things didn't stick. Basically, I want to figure out if Greene's OPS (or, perferably, something like weightedOBA ... but it doesn't really matter) at home (below what we'd expect) is statistically significant. That is, if we expect him to have a .750 OPS at hime and he's really at .650, is that significant at like the .05 level or something? 

I'm not exactly sure how you'd do it, to tell you the truth. If you know how or whatever, feel free to post it on your blog. If you want to try to walk me through it, comment here or email me if you'd like ("contact" up top). It may be time consuming or not really practical ... I'm not sure. Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brian, believe it or not, I took a intro stats class last year. I did pretty decent, but for some reason, a good portion of the things didn&#8217;t stick. Basically, I want to figure out if Greene&#8217;s OPS (or, perferably, something like weightedOBA &#8230; but it doesn&#8217;t really matter) at home (below what we&#8217;d expect) is statistically significant. That is, if we expect him to have a .750 OPS at hime and he&#8217;s really at .650, is that significant at like the .05 level or something? </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not exactly sure how you&#8217;d do it, to tell you the truth. If you know how or whatever, feel free to post it on your blog. If you want to try to walk me through it, comment here or email me if you&#8217;d like (&#8221;contact&#8221; up top). It may be time consuming or not really practical &#8230; I&#8217;m not sure. Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Bryan S</title>
		<link>http://friarforecast.com/?p=260#comment-941</link>
		<dc:creator>Bryan S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 21:52:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: 4, I just took a stats class last semester so it's pretty fresh in my head.  Let me know what you want to test and I can do the legwork.

-B</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: 4, I just took a stats class last semester so it&#8217;s pretty fresh in my head.  Let me know what you want to test and I can do the legwork.</p>
<p>-B</p>
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		<title>By: MB</title>
		<link>http://friarforecast.com/?p=260#comment-940</link>
		<dc:creator>MB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 16:52:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Corey, thanks for stopping by! &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;That's one of the things I worried about with this theme -- for some reason, it doesn't show a comment link if there are no comments on that post. For future reference, just click the title of the post, and then the comment box will appear at the bottom.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Anyway, yeah, there's definitely a risk with having guys like Prior and Wolf -- I'm sure the Padres know that. The caveat is that playing time projections are tough, and it's probably (er, obviously) critical for the Padres to throughly investigate guys like Wolf and Prior medically. They could easily beat the playing time projections if they're "healthier than their past innings would indicate."&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;That said, I'm not expecting a ton, at least innings-wise. At least guys like Germano and Hensley are serviceable, because they'll most likely be needed some.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Corey, thanks for stopping by! </p>
<p>That&#8217;s one of the things I worried about with this theme &#8212; for some reason, it doesn&#8217;t show a comment link if there are no comments on that post. For future reference, just click the title of the post, and then the comment box will appear at the bottom.</p>
<p>Anyway, yeah, there&#8217;s definitely a risk with having guys like Prior and Wolf &#8212; I&#8217;m sure the Padres know that. The caveat is that playing time projections are tough, and it&#8217;s probably (er, obviously) critical for the Padres to throughly investigate guys like Wolf and Prior medically. They could easily beat the playing time projections if they&#8217;re &#8220;healthier than their past innings would indicate.&#8221;</p>
<p>That said, I&#8217;m not expecting a ton, at least innings-wise. At least guys like Germano and Hensley are serviceable, because they&#8217;ll most likely be needed some.</p>
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		<title>By: Corey</title>
		<link>http://friarforecast.com/?p=260#comment-939</link>
		<dc:creator>Corey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 15:37:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Couldn't find a place to leave a comment on your newest item. Interesting stuff, especially the projections on Wolf and Prior. Looks like the bullpen will shoulder a lot of innings again this season.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Couldn&#8217;t find a place to leave a comment on your newest item. Interesting stuff, especially the projections on Wolf and Prior. Looks like the bullpen will shoulder a lot of innings again this season.</p>
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		<title>By: MB</title>
		<link>http://friarforecast.com/?p=260#comment-921</link>
		<dc:creator>MB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 02:09:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks a lot, guys.

I think the first thing I'm going to do is see if this is actually statistically significant (not this particularly, but the whole splits thing we've been talking about with Khalil). I've got to brush off the old statistics book there, but I'll see what I can do. I've got to see if this is more than just randomness or whatever (which I assume it's not) before I keep going along this path.

The idea about looking at similar players (in terms of balls in play) is a pretty good one, I think. That way we'd increase the sample quite a bit, while still looking at somewhat similar players. Another thing to think about down the line here.

By the way, if anyone is good at statistics, feel free to let me know how you'd figure out if Greene's splits are significant (I think I know the basics, but I'm not sure).
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks a lot, guys.</p>
<p>I think the first thing I&#8217;m going to do is see if this is actually statistically significant (not this particularly, but the whole splits thing we&#8217;ve been talking about with Khalil). I&#8217;ve got to brush off the old statistics book there, but I&#8217;ll see what I can do. I&#8217;ve got to see if this is more than just randomness or whatever (which I assume it&#8217;s not) before I keep going along this path.</p>
<p>The idea about looking at similar players (in terms of balls in play) is a pretty good one, I think. That way we&#8217;d increase the sample quite a bit, while still looking at somewhat similar players. Another thing to think about down the line here.</p>
<p>By the way, if anyone is good at statistics, feel free to let me know how you&#8217;d figure out if Greene&#8217;s splits are significant (I think I know the basics, but I&#8217;m not sure).</p>
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		<title>By: Bryan S</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bryan S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 01:21:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was thinking the same thing as Phantom: maybe look at Khalil's line drive/fly ball ratios and see whether hitters with vastly different ratios have more success at Petco or not.  Nice work here, this is all good to think about...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was thinking the same thing as Phantom: maybe look at Khalil&#8217;s line drive/fly ball ratios and see whether hitters with vastly different ratios have more success at Petco or not.  Nice work here, this is all good to think about&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Phantom</title>
		<link>http://friarforecast.com/?p=260#comment-919</link>
		<dc:creator>Phantom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 00:37:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Kevin. I also find it interesting that this jibes with what I thought I had perceived (although it is excruciatingly small in terms of sample sizes).

The thing about larger OFs that would seem to favor Khalil is his ability to hit gappers. One of the things I've noticed as Khalil has matured as a slugger is that he's not hitting the towering drives that he did as a rookie (I think at one point he was the only major leaguer to park one on Western Metal during a game). In 2007, perhaps more than any other year, I distinctly remember Khalil hitting more linedrive-type homeruns. His shots in Milwaukee in September are a good example of this.

Hmmm, THT's LD stats don't seem to support my LD theory, as he posted the lowest LD rate of his career in 07 (17.8%). His high was 22.1 in 05.

So I'm not really sure what to think. At this point, maybe we could try to find hitters who have a similar swing/style to Khalil and exmaine how they've done in large and small parks to get a better comp?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Kevin. I also find it interesting that this jibes with what I thought I had perceived (although it is excruciatingly small in terms of sample sizes).</p>
<p>The thing about larger OFs that would seem to favor Khalil is his ability to hit gappers. One of the things I&#8217;ve noticed as Khalil has matured as a slugger is that he&#8217;s not hitting the towering drives that he did as a rookie (I think at one point he was the only major leaguer to park one on Western Metal during a game). In 2007, perhaps more than any other year, I distinctly remember Khalil hitting more linedrive-type homeruns. His shots in Milwaukee in September are a good example of this.</p>
<p>Hmmm, THT&#8217;s LD stats don&#8217;t seem to support my LD theory, as he posted the lowest LD rate of his career in 07 (17.8%). His high was 22.1 in 05.</p>
<p>So I&#8217;m not really sure what to think. At this point, maybe we could try to find hitters who have a similar swing/style to Khalil and exmaine how they&#8217;ve done in large and small parks to get a better comp?</p>
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