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GM Byrnes makes first big splash, deals Mat Latos to Reds

Newly anointed San Diego Padres General Manager Josh Byrnes has not been shy about pulling the trigger, trading for John Baker, Huston Street, and Cory Burns so far this winter.

On Saturday, however, Byrnes made his first blockbuster deal as Padres GM, sending 24 year-old ace Mat Latos to the Cincinnati Reds for RHP Edinson Volquez, 1B Yonder Alonso, C Yasmani Grandal, and RHP Brad Boxberger. For names alone, this deal is a doozy.

Latos will not become arbitration-eligible until 2013, so he’ll be under Reds control for four more years. The Reds are getting a bona fide number one starter here, with potential to develop into one of the better pitcher’s in the game.

In Latos’ first full season, 2010, he put up a 2.92 ERA in 184.7 innings (189 strikeouts, 50 walks). Latos finished eighth in Cy Young voting and put up anywhere from three to four WAR, depending on where you look.

Last season, Latos went through a very mild case of sophomore-itis, as his ERA and walk rate climbed slightly, while his strikeout numbers declined. Still, he put together a formidable campaign and solidified himself as a front-end starter.

As impressive as Latos has been, consider his career ERA+ is only 108; above average, but far from Earth-shattering. Like any pitcher who gets the benefit of throwing a good portion of his innings in Petco Park, Latos is a bit overrated. He simply isn’t as good as his raw numbers, and it’ll remain to be seen how he adjusts to working outside of a pitcher’s paradise.

Let’s estimate Latos surplus value, just for kicks:

Year WAR $/WAR Proj. salary FA value Surplus value
2012 3.5 5 $500K $17.5M $17M
2013 4 5.3 $8.5M $21.2M $12.7
2014 3.5 5.6 $11.8M $19.6M $7.8
2015 3.5 5.9 $16.5M $20.7M $4.2
Total - - - - $41.7

When the Padres dealt Adrian Gonzalez to the Red Sox last offseason, we estimated his surplus value at $21 million, as Gonzalez only had one year left under contract. The packages the Padres received for each player may look more similar than expected, however, as Gonzalez is better than Latos year-to-year and more of a sure-thing (being a position player). Further, the Red Sox knew they were going to be able to lock him up.

Anyway, back to the Latos deal. The Padres did get a lot in return for the young starter. Edinson Volzquez, 28, is simply a gamble. Volquez racked up 4.8 WAR (B-Ref) in his breakout 2008 season; in the rest of his career, Volquez has been worth –1.6 WAR. That’s about all you need to know about him. He’ll benefit from Petco and should provide some depth in the back-end of the Padres rotation. Volzquez is arbitration-eligible in 2012 and under control through 2014.

Yonder Alonso, drafted seventh overall in 2008 by the Reds,  has been dubbed the key piece in this deal. Curiously, however, he has a similar long-term outlook to the recently acquired (from the aforementioned Gonzalez deal) Anthony Rizzo. In fact, Rizzo has put up better overall minor league numbers and he’s a couple years younger than Alonso.

While Rizzo has struggled big-time against MLB pitching (.141/.281/.242, 153 PAs), Alsono has thrived (.299/.354/.479, 127 PAs). While that’s an extremely limited sample, it certainly doesn’t hurt Alonso’s case. There’s also some talk that Alonso’s gap-to-gap approach may be better-suited for Petco. One would think that one of either Alonso or Rizzo may be dealt soon. Alonso is under Padres control through 2018.

Yasmani Grandal, 23, was drafted in the first round (12th overall) of the 2010 draft by the Reds, but he only got 33 plate appearances in Rookie Ball that year. He flew through the system last season, though, going from Low-A to Triple-A while hitting .305/.401/.500 in the process. He has work to do behind the plate, but he did throw out 34 percent of base stealers last season.

While the Padres aren’t in desperate need of a catcher thanks to Nick Hundley’s emergence, Grandal definitely has the potential to surpass Hundley in a year or two. He offers a lot more upside, obviously. Positional scarcity, a rock-solid debut campaign, and less of a road block at catcher lead one to believe that Grandal may be the true centerpiece of this deal.

Brad Boxberger, 23, was drafted 43rd overall by the Reds in 2009. Primarily working as a reliever, Boxberger has put up some gaudy numbers in the minors, striking out 11.9 per nine while surrendering .6 HR/9. His control has been a bit shaky, as he walked 4.1 per nine in each of his first two minor league seasons.

His size (6-2, 200) and control might worry you, not to mention the fact that he’s been used mostly in relief so far, but Boxberger clearly has potential to develop into something of use.

Baseball America’s recently posted Reds Top Ten has Alonso ranked third, Grandal fourth, and Boxberger tenth.

While these trades are ultimately tough to face as Padres fans, we’re getting used to it – Peavy Gonzalez, and Latos have all departed in recent seasons. Latos was home-grown, rose quickly through the system, and established himself as a legitimate front-line starter. It’s tough to see him go.

Still, from an analytical standpoint, it’s satisfying to see the Padres try to build for the near-future, and this is a creative and bold way to do it. While Latos could have definitely contributed in a big way to the next Padres contender, the package they received has the potential to have a more significant impact. Apparently, Byrnes and company did not believe Latos was a long-term fit.

The Padres pick up three young cost-controlled prospects for one young big-league starter. It’s not a no-brainer, by any means, but there’s a reason San Diego is being lauded nationally in this deal (though, yes, you have the right to be a little worried since Jim Bowden is such a big fan).

Latos strong in 2011 debut; Padres fall to Reds

Mat Latos made his first start of the season against the Cincinnati Reds on Monday night, coming off the DL from a sore right shoulder.

Latos was solid in six innings of work, striking out seven, walking two, and allowing two (big) home runs.

Jonny Gomes took a hanging breaking ball and deposited it into the left field stands in the fourth, cutting the Padres lead to 2-1. In the following inning, Chris Heisey turned on a high fastball that landed in the same proximity as Gomes’ big fly, giving the Reds a 3-2 lead they would not relinquish.

Other than those two pitches, Latos was his usual dominant self (as was his counterpart, Edinson Volquez). His pitch location, at times anyway, was not quite in mid-season form, but coming off the DL and making his first start of the year, you can’t expect that. It’s called mid-season form for a reason.

According to PITCHf/x, his four-seam fastball velocity was 93.1 miles per hour, just one MPH off last year’s average (FanGraphs).

Latos v reds

The above graph shows Latos pitch types, classified by MLB Gameday, with horizontal and vertical movement.

The Padres had their best chance to tie game in the eighth inning, when Alberto Gonzalez lined a lead off double just inside the left field foul line. With the tying run on second, Chris Denorfia attempted to sacrifice Gonzalez over to third.

Denorfia placed his bunt in the one spot you don’t want it – right in front of home plate. Reds catcher Ramon Hernandez’s throw to third was low and to the wrong side of the bag, but Scott Rolen picked it and put down a quick tag, getting a generous out call from the third base umpire.

Gonzalez looked safe, quite clearly, though in real-time it was a bang-bang play. Still, Denorfia has to do a better job of getting the bunt down – anywhere else on the diamond probably gets the runner to third.

Instead of a man on third, one out (or first and third, no outs), the Padres were left with Denorfia on first with one down. Jorge Cantu had a very nice at-bat following that debacle, but ended up striking out (Denorfia was thrown out at second on the whiff, adding to the frustration).

The Padres had a chance in the ninth, as Orlando Hudson led off with a walk, but  nothing materialized. On the positive side, Latos did have a nice outing. I don’t think this team has a chance without a healthy and effective Latos, and it’s definitely good to have him back already.

Latos Is Good…But Not This Good

Mat Latos has had a fantastic season.  He has struck out 106 batters compared to only 30 walks in 112 innings pitched.  His 2.48 ERA is accompanied by 11 wins to 4 losses.  Not bad for a second year pitcher.

Latos has great stuff.  His 94 mph fastball is 1.63 runs above average per 100 pitches, and he throws it about 60 percent of the time.  His slider is actually better on a per-pitch basis–2.82 runs above average per 100 pitches–and is thrown one quarter of the time.  Latos’s change-up, his next most frequently thrown pitch is also over a run per hundred pitches above average.

Basically, Latos is young, has good stuff, and has learned how to use that stuff effectively.

The thing is, as good as Latos has been, he has not been 2.48 ERA good.  His FIP stands at 3.35, and his xFIP is 3.51.  Both numbers are incredibly solid, but suggest that Latos has been a bit lucky this season.

The main driver has been a ridiculously low BABIP.  Latos’s BABIP is a miniscule 0.251, fourth lowest in the National League amongst Fangraph’s qualified pitchers.

Latos has also been great at stranding runners, rather than allowing them to score.  His 84.2 percent strand rate is also fourth lowest in the National League (Wade LeBlanc at 85.7 percent leads the league).

Mat Latos is a solid pitcher, and projects to be very good going forward.  But, a low BABIP, low strand rate, and the wonders of Petco Park have combined to make a good pitcher look like a Cy-Young pitcher.  Latos might be one some day, but he is not there quite yet.

Mat Latos and the innings limit

Before the season, it was reported that Mat Latos would probably be limited to around 150 innings. The idea is to limit a young pitcher’s workload and to gradually work the pitcher up to a 200+ innings/year level. Pushing a young pitcher who may not be prepared for the rigors of ~200 major league innings is a recipe for disaster.

Or so they say. This theory is largely based on the “Verducci Effect,” which says that pitchers under the age of 25 who experience an increase in workload of 30 or more innings see injury and/or a decrease in performance in the subsequent season. The Verducci Effect has been challenged and debunked, at least to some degree. There’s still a ton of work to be done in predicting injuries — we certainly don’t have any definitive answers, especially on any individual pitcher — thus we cannot just say that a dramatic increase in innings pitched for a young hurler will lead to injury and decreased performance. It might, it might not.

Anyhow, before the season, the San Diego Padres probably did not expect to be sitting atop the NL West in late June, with a 42-29 record. If the Padres play just .450 baseball from here on out, they will finish with 83 wins – in other words, at this point, a playoff run is very probable. Prior to the season, the Padres also probably did not expect Mat Latos to be the staff ace, carrying a 2.93 ERA in 86 innings (8.3 K/9, 2.3 BB/9, .94 HR/9).

With these new factors – the Padres playoff chances and Latos’ performance – added to the mix, it complicates the decision-making process regarding Latos’ workload. Sure, it’s a nice problem to have, but it’s also one that is extremely hard to make. Flags fly forever, as they say, and Latos is an important part of the Padres success. If he keeps pitching at this rate, I predict he’ll make about 31 starts, good for 190 innings. If the Padres cut him off at 150 innings, he’ll probably miss six or seven starts – or late August and all of September. Critical starts when the Padres will need him most.*

There’s the other side of the coin, too. Is it worth risking Latos’ future in an attempt to reach the playoffs right now? Latos is under control and cheap, and he has a chance to provide a lot of surplus value over the next few years, perhaps developing into a Jake Peavy-like ace, if things break right. Throwing him 190 innings in his first full season, many of them likely critical, high leverage innings down the stretch run, not to mention potential playoff innings, could do a lot to damage Latos’ future impact with the organization.

The good news is that the Padres don’t have to make a decision anytime soon, and they indicate as much in an article by Bill Center at the Union-Tribune. By the time we get to late August, maybe things will take care of themselves, and the decision will be made easier. Or, perhaps the Padres will be in the thick of a playoff race and Latos will still be performing well, making the decision that much tougher. We’ll have to wait and see.

*If there really is a set number, like 150, it might make sense for the Padres to rest Latos now and bring him back for the stretch-run. This would certainly be an out-on-a-limb strategy, with potential negative side-effects, but it might make sense, saving Latos – and having him well rested – for the late-season playoff chase.

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